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\r\nThe Finish Kare Paint Decontamination System is a three step system that deep cleans automotive paint using a specific sequence of alkaline, acidic, and neutral cleaners. The Finish Kare Paint Decontamination System is factory authorized and approved to remove contamination beyond what can be removed by washing and claying. This includes eliminating soil and ferrous metals from beneath the paint`s surface to prevent long-term paint damage. Some chemical compounds and ferrous particles, particularly those containing iron, actually penetrate the paint and form corrosive compounds that eat deep into the paint`s sub-layers. Claying or surface cleaning only removes the particle, not it`s effects, which continue to spread uninhibited.
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\r\nThe 3 Stage Finish Kare Paint Decontamination System includes:
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\r\nStep 1: Finish Kare 1119 Soil and Coating Remover, which is an alkaline based cleaner that removes outer surface rust, soil coatings, iron oxides, and prepares the paint for the second stage.
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\r\nStep 2: Finish Kare SIRR Steel, Iron, and Rust Remover is an acid solution that is designed to remove embedded ferrous particles and neutralize caustic compounds.
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\r\nThe final step in the Finish Kare Paint Decontamination System is Finish Kare 118 Shampoo Super Concentrate & pH Neutralizer a unique, highly active shampoo that is non-clogging and non-hydrolyzing. When used with cold water it will quench the paint surface, which removes any ferrous particles , as well as makes the paint pH neutral. This product can also be used as a stand alone soap to neutralize acid rain.
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\r\nI was very fortunate to peel Mike Phillips from Autogeek.net away from his article writing frenzy to assist with this project. Here Mike demonstrates the first step in any project, reading the directions.
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\r\nStep 1: Finish Kare 119 Soil & Coating Remover-
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\r\nAfter your vehicle is clean and dry, the first step in the Finish Kare Decontamination System is an alkaline cleaner that removes topical decontamination. This product is mixed 4 parts water to 1 part Finish Kare 119 Soil & Coating Remover. I used a 64 oz jug filled with water and a 16 oz bottle filled with solution for a total of 80 oz of chemical.
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\r\nThe directions state that once the solution is mixed, apply the Soil & Coating Remover working from the bottom to the top, and work the product into the paint thoroughly then allow to dwell between 8-10 minutes. The mixed solution will have the consistency of milk and very little product will go extremely far.
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\r\nThe Finish Kare 119 Soil & Coating Remover spreads thinly over the paint with a milk like consistency.
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\r\nOur concerns about 80 oz of solution not being enough were completely unfounded. We had only used approximately 40 oz of solution to adequately coat the huge Expedition EL. The remaining solution.
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\r\nAfter allowing the Finish Kare Soil & Coating Remover to dwell on the surface for 8-10 minutes we pulled the Expedition outside and thoroughly rinsed the solution from the paint.
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\r\nStep 2 Finish Kare 883 SIRR Steel Iron Rust Remover & Step 3 Finish Kare 118 Shampoo Super Concentrate & pH Neutralizer.
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\r\nBefore starting Step 2, it is important to mix the water-soap solution in for Step 3. The Finish Kare 118 Shampoo Super Concentrate & pH Neutralizer is diluted 1oz per gallon of water. Here Mike Phillips mixes 4 oz of Shampoo Super Concentrate & pH Neutralizer with 4 gallons of water in our Blackfire Bucket.
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\r\nStep Two, Finish Kare SIRR is an acid based cleaner that removes remaining topical contamination as well any below the surface contamination while helping to neutralize the alkaline solution used in step 1. Apply Finish Kare 883 SIRR Surface Iron Rust Remover undiluted to a microfiber towel and rub into the paint.
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\r\nImmediately after working Step 2: Finish Kare 883 SIRR Surface Iron Rust Remover into the paint, wash the sections with Step 3: 118 Shampoo Super Concentrate & pH Neutralizer and rinse thoroughly to remove the acidic solution and neutralize the paint. Here Mike uses a Boar`s Hair brush to work the Shampoo Super Concentrate into the paint and clean the acidic cleaner. Then rinse the panels clean.
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\r\n Thanks for explaining this system Todd. I`ve been looking at it for a while, but I didn`t know exactly what it did or how it did it.\r\n
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What type of brush is that, is it safe to the point it will not cause scratches or swirls on polished paint? Just asking.. or was this vehicle scheduled to be polished after the wash??
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It is a 10 inch Boar`s Hair brush made by the Montana Brush Company. I am EXTREMELY critical of boar`s hair brushes because I feel that the lower quality ones absolutely compromise the surface of the paint. That said if you follow the directions (let the brush soak 3-5 minutes) and use it gently then you will not mar the paint. This is a super high quality tool and if you used properly (like any wash media) you will be shiny!
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How to: Finish Kare 3 Step Paint Decontamination System.
How To: The Finish Kare 3 Step Paint Decontamination System.
The Finish Kare Paint Decontamination System is a three step system that deep cleans automotive paint using a specific sequence of alkaline, acidic, and neutral cleaners. The Finish Kare Paint Decontamination System is factory authorized and approved to remove contamination beyond what can be removed by washing and claying. This includes eliminating soil and ferrous metals from beneath the paint`s surface to prevent long-term paint damage. Some chemical compounds and ferrous particles, particularly those containing iron, actually penetrate the paint and form corrosive compounds that eat deep into the paint`s sub-layers. Claying or surface cleaning only removes the particle, not it`s effects, which continue to spread uninhibited.
The 3 Stage Finish Kare Paint Decontamination System includes:
Step 1: Finish Kare 1119 Soil and Coating Remover, which is an alkaline based cleaner that removes outer surface rust, soil coatings, iron oxides, and prepares the paint for the second stage.
Step 2: Finish Kare SIRR Steel, Iron, and Rust Remover is an acid solution that is designed to remove embedded ferrous particles and neutralize caustic compounds.
The final step in the Finish Kare Paint Decontamination System is Finish Kare 118 Shampoo Super Concentrate & pH Neutralizer a unique, highly active shampoo that is non-clogging and non-hydrolyzing. When used with cold water it will quench the paint surface, which removes any ferrous particles , as well as makes the paint pH neutral. This product can also be used as a stand alone soap to neutralize acid rain.
In addition to chemical products it is important to have quality plush microfiber towels, and since we are dealing with acids and strong alkalies, protective gloves. Pictured above, we used Black Nitrile Gloves and Cobra Super Plush 600 Microfiber Towels.
I was very fortunate to peel Mike Phillips from Autogeek.net away from his article writing frenzy to assist with this project. Here Mike demonstrates the first step in any project, reading the directions.
Having a firm understanding of the manufacturer`s directions allows you to formulate a well informed game plan.
Step 1: Finish Kare 119 Soil & Coating Remover-
Note: If you car is dirty we recommend washing carefully and drying to remove any loose soiling that could cause swirl marks.
After your vehicle is clean and dry, the first step in the Finish Kare Decontamination System is an alkaline cleaner that removes topical decontamination. This product is mixed 4 parts water to 1 part Finish Kare 119 Soil & Coating Remover. I used a 64 oz jug filled with water and a 16 oz bottle filled with solution for a total of 80 oz of chemical.
Mike Phillips adds the Finish Kare 119 Soil & Coating Remover into the Blackfire Wash Bucket.
Since we working on a large Ford Expedition EL, we were initially concerned that would 80 oz of solution would not be enough. Here is what eighty ounces of mixed solution looks like in a five gallon Blackfire Wash Bucket.
The directions state that once the solution is mixed, apply the Soil & Coating Remover working from the bottom to the top, and work the product into the paint thoroughly then allow to dwell between 8-10 minutes. The mixed solution will have the consistency of milk and very little product will go extremely far.
Here I am working the solution into the paint from the bottom up.
The Finish Kare 119 Soil & Coating Remover spreads thinly over the paint with a milk like consistency.
Mike Phillip`s (visible in the reflection) applying the Soil & Coating remover on the other side.
Our concerns about 80 oz of solution not being enough were completely unfounded. We had only used approximately 40 oz of solution to adequately coat the huge Expedition EL. The remaining solution.
After allowing the Finish Kare Soil & Coating Remover to dwell on the surface for 8-10 minutes we pulled the Expedition outside and thoroughly rinsed the solution from the paint.
It is important to dry the horizontal surfaces before moving onto step`s 2 and 3. Here I used a Cobra Guzzler.
Step 2 Finish Kare 883 SIRR Steel Iron Rust Remover & Step 3 Finish Kare 118 Shampoo Super Concentrate & pH Neutralizer.
Note: Step 2 and Step 3 are carried out in tandem, 2 panels at a time until the entire vehicle has been completed.
Before starting Step 2, it is important to mix the water-soap solution in for Step 3. The Finish Kare 118 Shampoo Super Concentrate & pH Neutralizer is diluted 1oz per gallon of water. Here Mike Phillips mixes 4 oz of Shampoo Super Concentrate & pH Neutralizer with 4 gallons of water in our Blackfire Bucket.
Step Two, Finish Kare SIRR is an acid based cleaner that removes remaining topical contamination as well any below the surface contamination while helping to neutralize the alkaline solution used in step 1. Apply Finish Kare 883 SIRR Surface Iron Rust Remover undiluted to a microfiber towel and rub into the paint.
When applying SIRR, apply to two panels at a time. Here Mike thoroughly applies Step 2: SIRR to the front fender.
Then apply SIRR to a second panel. Mike applies Finish Kare 883 SIRR to the door. This gives the product to dwell on the fender.
Now go back to the initial panel, where the product has had time to dwell, and work into the surface until you can feel the paint become smooth and the towel glides over the surface. The work the section section in a similar manner.
Immediately after working Step 2: Finish Kare 883 SIRR Surface Iron Rust Remover into the paint, wash the sections with Step 3: 118 Shampoo Super Concentrate & pH Neutralizer and rinse thoroughly to remove the acidic solution and neutralize the paint. Here Mike uses a Boar`s Hair brush to work the Shampoo Super Concentrate into the paint and clean the acidic cleaner. Then rinse the panels clean.
Repeat this process, applying Step 2 to two panels at a time, working into the panels, then washing with step 3, and finally rinsing the sections until the entire vehicle has been completed.
Finally we washed and rinsed the entire truck to reveal a clean, smooth, decontaminated and pH neutral paint.
Final Note: Always use a high quality wax or paint sealant after using the Finish Kare Paint Decontamination System. Follow the prescribed steps in order, and use each product according to the directions on the label for best results. Wear protective goggles, gloves and appropriate clothing when using this professional system.
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