Meguiars soft buff cutting pad?

**ZL1Mark** · 11-12-2011,ï¿½01:45 PM

I got a free one and gave it a very short run today on a light colored metallic. I noticed a lot of the product stayed on the face of the pad, which would lead me to believe it`s closed cell? With all things equal, does it have the same amount of cut as the HT cyan pad? It`s seems as though the Meg`s pad may crumble apart like the cyan HT? How does the Meg`s cutting pad finish?

**C. Charles Hahn** · 11-12-2011,ï¿½06:49 PM

Which version, W-7006, or W-7207? The foam is different between the SB and SB2.0

**ZL1Mark** · 11-12-2011,ï¿½07:42 PM

W-7207

**C. Charles Hahn** · 11-13-2011,ï¿½12:35 AM

Mark, I`ve never had one of the W8207s fall apart or flake on me like an HT pad; it is closed cell foam though. As far as cut goes I haven`t used the Cyan HTs enough to say how they compare.

**Todd@RUPES** · 11-13-2011,ï¿½09:23 AM

The SB 2.0 foam is closed cell and finishes nicely for a cutting pad.
The SB foam is open cell and is more aggressive then the SB 2.0 IME, but also leaves considerably more marring on the paint.

**ZL1Mark** · 11-13-2011,ï¿½04:11 PM

Thanks guys.

I`ve had trouble with a lot of marring on soft paint with the Cyan HT, compared to the B&S yellow cutting pad(open cell) which finishes noticeably better. On the flipside, the B&S yellow absorbs a lot of polish. I`m wondering if the W7207 would have the same problem as the Cyan HT on soft paint? Is it a closed cell issue?

**Todd@RUPES** · 11-14-2011,ï¿½01:13 AM

Originally Posted by 07 z-oh-6

Thanks guys.

I`ve had trouble with a lot of marring on soft paint with the Cyan HT, compared to the B&S yellow cutting pad(open cell) which finishes noticeably better. On the flipside, the B&S yellow absorbs a lot of polish. I`m wondering if the W7207 would have the same problem as the Cyan HT on soft paint? Is it a closed cell issue?

In general (VERY general) closed cell pads tend to offer a slightly nicer finish per level of cut because the closed cell itself is stiffer, so a nicer finishing foam will have slighlty more cut.

The marring is likely the result of the specific foam (open or closed) on that particular paint. There is much more that goes into to a foam then the cell structure.

**C. Charles Hahn** · 11-14-2011,ï¿½11:42 AM

Originally Posted by Todd Helme

In general (VERY general) closed cell pads tend to offer a slightly nicer finish per level of cut because the closed cell itself is stiffer, so a nicer finishing foam will have slighlty more cut.

The marring is likely the result of the specific foam (open or closed) on that particular paint. There is much more that goes into to a foam then the cell structure.

In what way are you defining that observation? The reason I ask is because while the SoftBuff 2.0 (closed cell) cutting pads are "stiff," I would call the original open cell SoftBuff cutting pad "stiffer" or "harder," at least where surface conformity over curved body panels is concerned...

**Todd@RUPES** · 11-15-2011,ï¿½01:07 AM

Originally Posted by Shiny Lil Detlr

In what way are you defining that observation? The reason I ask is because while the SoftBuff 2.0 (closed cell) cutting pads are "stiff," I would call the original open cell SoftBuff cutting pad "stiffer" or "harder," at least where surface conformity over curved body panels is concerned...

I am saying that if you take the same formula of foam (compression/rebound identical) and make one as a closed cell and one as a open cell, the closed cell foam is going to be stiffer. Its like laying to pieces of steel side by side to form the frame of a car. If you attach them together with two cross members the `frame` will have a lot of flex. However if you run twelve cross members together it will be stiffer. A closed cell foam has more `support` and thus, all things being equal, will be stiffer and less resistant to change.

I agree 100% that the Softbuff pad is more aggressive/stiffer then the Softbuff 2.0 pad, but this is because a more aggressive foam is used, not because the foam is either open or closed.

**ZL1Mark** · 11-15-2011,ï¿½01:19 AM

I read a few reviews on the 7207 and it seems they seem to fall apart just like the Cyan pads.

**Todd@RUPES** · 11-15-2011,ï¿½10:39 AM

Originally Posted by 07 z-oh-6

I read a few reviews on the 7207 and it seems they seem to fall apart just like the Cyan pads.

It seems the price you pay for the amazing performance of a closed cell pad. In the professional environment it is not a big deal as pads are often replaced when they are soiled. However we offer plenty of open celled cutting pads that cut well and last a long time. Life is choices and we (Autopia-CarCare) offer plenty of them!